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  1. Danny B

    If the Kitvans ate a high carb, high sugar diet, but were free from ailment. Similarly the Italians, French, Japs, Chinese have a high fat, high carb/grain diet but are low obesity. Therefore why should grains necessarily be avoided completely?
    Could you not eat a home-made loaf of bread with organic flour, for instance? It would be free from all the cr@p associated with processed foods and the Italians eat home-made pasta with every meal and they’re doing ok.

    Also, what’s this stuff I read about modern forms of wheat? How modern are they and how do they differ from none modern forms? And is it possible to differentiate bewteen types f wheat used in different products?

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    1. simonprimal (Post author)

      Hi Danny,

      I think you’ve sort of missed the whole point of the article there!

      Grains should be avoided, as they are one of the major causes of Western disease. The point of the article, is that this is not to do with the carbs present in the grains, but due to the lectins, phytates and anti-nutrients present in them.

      Grains, wheat in particular, have been shown to:

      Affect hormone signalling, in particular insulin and leptin sensitivity, thus disrupting fat regulation.

      Cause auto-immune disorders in genetically susceptible individuals (i.e. multiple sclerosis, arthritis, lupus etc).

      Cause bone diseases such as osteoperosis and tooth decay.

      Displace more nutritious foods from the diet such as vegetables and fruits.

      The Kitavans have a high carb diet, but it is grain free, and much lower in fructose.

      The Italians are healthier and less fat than us Brits or the Yanks, but lets face it, that’s not saying much. Its like bragging about being better looking than Robin Cook! They still suffer weight gain, heart disease, cancer, auto-immune disorders and mental illness, all diseases not present in traditional hunter-gatherer societies.

      Having organic flour would make no difference whatsoever – It would be like having organic arsenic, its still going to poison you!

      There is some research that indicates that the damage from some other grains can be minimised slightly by soaking, sprouting and fermenting them before eating, but this seems to be a lot of trouble to go for a food that will still be far inferior in terms of nutritional value to meat or vegetables.

      Don’t eat bread, eat spinach instead!

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  2. Danny B

    Cheers mate.

    What about the ‘new’ forms of wheat/grains? This is one fo the reasons heartscanblog.com give as a cause of type 1 diabetes:

    4) The increase in type 1 diabetes corresponds to the introduction of new strains of wheat that resulted from the extensive genetics research and hybridizations carried out on this plant in the 1960s. In particular, unique protein antigens (immune-provoking sequences) were introduced with the dwarf variant attributable to alterations in the “D” genome of modern Triticum aestivum.

    Do these new grains coincide with a rise obesity and illness? Or have obesity and illness long been associated with eating bread? For example, The Romans always seemed to be eating bread, did they have the same issues we have now or is it a 20th century thing??

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  3. simonprimal (Post author)

    If you actually look at the fossil evidence, humans were actually in their worst shape physically immediately after the agricultural revolution.

    Although they weren’t fat, due to having little to no sugar, little food in general and being much more active, they were much smaller in stature and had much more bone deformities due to eating a diet almost exclusively comprised of grains.

    Perhaps modern grains are worse, perhaps they aren’t – Regardless, if you’re eating plant foods, vegetables kick ass over everything else!

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  4. rlh

    What are the high carbohydrate fruit and vegetables?

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    1. simonprimal (Post author)

      If you are looking to lose body fat and suspect you are insulin resistant I would recommend avoiding fruits such as bananas and mangos, and starchy root vegetables, potatoes in particular.

      The best veg to go for would be green leafy ones such as spinach, kale, chard, spring greens etc, plus plenty of onions, courgettes, peppers, broccoli etc. With fruits, berries provide the highest nutrient content for the lowest amount of calories.

      Hope this helps.

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  5. George Super Boot Camps

    Hi Simon,

    This is a great article about the whole good food/bad food issue. Nicely based around fact, but with a bit of the personal touch to it.

    Many times I find that the majority of the advice you give (and that I totally agree with ) can be summed up by ‘If you can’t pick it or kill it, you probably shouldn’t eat it’.

    Sadly I can’t remember where I got it from, but it’s a good place to start.

    Keep up the good work,
    George

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